Agilent Partners with PacBio to Speed Adoption of Long Reads into Diagnostic Testing
After more than a decade of success in research, long-read sequencing is more and more adopted into clinical testing. In today’s show, we speak with Rita Shaknovich, Chief Medical Officer at Agilent Technologies, and Sarah Kingan, Associate Director of DNA Applications at Pacific Biosciences (PacBio), about how their collaboration is speeding up this long-anticipated transition.* 0:00 Long read sequencing changing clinical landscape* 7:00 Long reads replacing older technologies* 13:15 Agilent/PacBio partnership – speeding up adoption* 16:00 Panels designed for short reads can be used for long reads* 24:25 Democratizing accessLong-read sequencing—once prized mainly by researchers for its ability to resolve structural variants, repeat expansions, and complex genomic regions—has reached a point of technical and economic maturity that now makes it viable in the clinical setting. “We can now see regions of the genome that were long considered dark matter,” says Shakhnovich. “That’s leading to improved diagnostic yield and, most importantly, better outcomes for patients.”Agilent brings to this collaboration a long-standing foothold in laboratory testing. Its automated platforms and target enrichment chemistries are already embedded in many diagnostic laboratories worldwide. PacBio, of course, brings the power of HiFi long-read sequencing to the table. Together, the companies are demonstrating that technologies originally designed for short-read sequencing can be seamlessly adapted to long-read workflows. “Panels that were designed for short reads can be used for long reads—essentially right out of the box,” explains Kingan. “It really just opens up a whole world of clinical applications immediately.”By combining Agilent’s infrastructure and expertise with PacBio’s long-read innovation, the partnership is accelerating the integration of comprehensive, single-platform sequencing into patient testing. The result is a streamlined, cost-effective approach that reduces the need for multiple assays while providing richer genomic insight. This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.mendelspod.com/subscribe
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How AI Is Doing Science with Vivek Adarsh, CEO of Mithrl
What used to take months of bioinformatics analysis can now happen in minutes—and with greater biological insight than ever before. In this episode, Theral Timpson sits down with Vivek Adarsh, co-founder and CEO of Mithrl, an “AI science” company that’s bringing the power of vertical AI to the lab bench.Adarsh began his career at Nvidia, long before the company became synonymous with AI. “What I learned there,” he recalls, “was that when you build a team around exceptional talent, deep passion, and empathy—especially empathy for your customers—everything else flows from that.” That lesson guides how Mithrl now builds tools for scientists drowning in data.At the heart of Mithrl is a platform that takes scientists from raw data to biological insight in minutes, complete with automatic data cleaning, literature integration, and a conversational interface. Adarsh describes how one pharma team identified new biomarkers in 15 minutes—a process that would normally take months—and how another user avoided a costly error when Mithrl’s reasoning layer caught an incorrectly labeled sample.Asked about the risk of losing “happy accidents” in a world of faster science, Adarsh pushed back:“AI doesn’t eliminate the happy accident—it multiplies the opportunities for it. You can’t control luck, but you can create the conditions for it to appear more often.”In closing, he offered a glimpse of what drives him:“If we can accelerate the path from raw data to real discovery—from sequencing files to the next therapy—then we’ve done something far bigger than building software. We’ve built a partner for science itself.” This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.mendelspod.com/subscribe
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Inventor Mark Kokoris on Roche’s New Sequencing by Expansion
The biggest story in sequencing this year lives up to the hype. Mark Kokoris, head of SBX sequencing at Roche and inventor of the technology, joins Mendelspod to talk about how Sequencing by Expansion (SBX) works and why it may redefine the limits of genomics.* 0:00 A long journey inspired by PCR* 7:20 What is sequencing by expansion?* 14:00 On scale and accuracy* 19:40 Multi-omics vision?* 24:40 What will be the killer app?* 30:00 Biggest challenge for launchKokoris recounts the long path from co-founding Stratos Genomics in 2007 to Roche’s acquisition in 2020, when his team’s “wildly ambitious chemistry” finally found its match in Genia’s high-density nanopore platform. “Our approach to efficiently sequencing DNA,” he explains, “is to not sequence DNA. We rescale the problem—expand the molecule about 50-fold—so we can read it with much higher signal-to-noise.”The result is astonishing speed. Working with the Broad Institute and Boston Children’s Hospital, SBX delivered whole-genome results in under four hours, with the sequencing step itself taking only about 15 minutes. Kokoris attributes the achievement to a confluence of chemistry and compute.SBX’s duplex mode achieves Illumina-level accuracy (F1 > 99.8 %) while maintaining single-molecule simplicity. Its tunable flexibility lets small labs run a handful of samples in hours or large centers run thousands per day. Kokoris describes it as a technology built on impatience and rule-breaking, designed to give scientists options they’ve never had.Looking ahead to the 2026 research-use launch, he’s characteristically bold:“For me, success means SBX becoming the new standard in sequencing. Innovation can’t stop—it has to keep evolving, because biology is complex and we’ve got a lot more to do.” This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.mendelspod.com/subscribe
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From Brewing Sake to Brewing Science: Takara Bio’s Bold New Chapter with CSO Andrew Farmer
What company began as a sake manufacturer over a century ago and went on to launch the world’s first single-cell kit in 2011? It’s Takara Bio—and their story is far from finished.In this episode, we talk with Dr. Andrew Farmer, Chief Scientific Officer and Head of R&D at Takara Bio USA, about the company’s remarkable evolution from a Japanese enzyme maker to a global innovator in single-cell and spatial biology. Farmer recalls, “We go way, way back to being a sake manufacturer a hundred years ago. And it’s through that business—realizing that sake is basically fermentation—that we could use that to do other interesting things in biology.”* 0:00 Began as a sake manufacturer over 100 years ago* 5:25 First kit for single-cell sequencing* 11:10 Bought Curio Bioscience to bring in spatial omics* 15:00 Returning to the level of the cell* 26:40 The new “T-cell sponge”He describes how Takara Bio introduced the first commercial single-cell reagent kit long before the current explosion of single-cell technologies: “The first single-cell reagent kit on the market was actually from us. That was in 2011, and even the Fluidigm C1 system was driven by our chemistry.”The conversation then moves through Takara’s acquisition of Curio Bioscience, adding the Trekker and Seeker spatial platforms, which—remarkably—require no specialized instruments. Farmer explains how this simplicity could democratize access to spatial data and accelerate multiomic studies in cancer and drug discovery.And for an ending twist, he introduces the “T-cell Sponge,” a porous hydrogel matrix that activates and transduces T cells in a single step—an innovation recently named one of The Scientist’s Top Innovations of 2025. This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.mendelspod.com/subscribe
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How Pathologists Can Lead in Precision Medicine with David Braxton
When should a genetic test be ordered—and who decides? It’s a question we are constantly asking on the program. Dr. David Braxton, Chief of Molecular Pathology at Hoag Memorial Hospital in Southern California, has built a system where the answer is simple: the pathologist decides. At Hoag, reflex testing protocols automatically trigger genomic tests when certain cancers appear under the microscope—embedding precision medicine directly into the biopsy workflow.* 0:00 How did you become an advocate for precision medicine?* 5:50 What triggers the ordering of a genetic test?* 12:00 Using national lab vs in-house* 19:03 Which areas show most progress?* 24:32 A fan of early cancer testing?* 29:42 How digitized is your lab?* 42:45 Moonshot? Treat CHIP“We developed standardized operating procedures where if a pathologist sees certain types of cancers in certain states, they automatically order the genomic testing,” Braxton explains. “It’s all very formalized. We call it pathologist-initiated reflex testing—and it gets results into the medical record before the oncologist even sees the patient.”Braxton talks about making genomic profiling routine in a community setting, the barriers that still slow precision medicine—education, reimbursement, regulation—and how digital pathology and AI are reshaping what pathologists can see and do. “The real value of digital pathology and AI,” he says, “isn’t necessarily helping pathologists do their jobs quicker or better—it’s going beyond what the human eye can see.”Braxton offers a pragmatic, hopeful look at how community hospitals can lead the next phase of precision oncology. We discuss the increasingly used MRD testing and get Braxton’s thought’s on early cancer detection tests. In the end, he shares his “moonshot:” using molecular diagnostics to detect clonal hematopoiesis, a precursor state that silently increases risk for leukemia, heart disease, and other inflammatory conditions. “If you want to talk about the role of diagnostics in decreasing chronic conditions like heart attacks and cancer,” he says, “this is the moonshot—catching that silent killer early with molecular techniques.” This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.mendelspod.com/subscribe
Offering a front row seat to the Century of Biology, veteran podcast host Theral Timpson interviews the who's who in genomics and genomic medicine. www.mendelspod.com
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